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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19068
Location: PDX

4/23/22 8:20 AM

The BrWinr duplicate the Checkpoint?

Or are you thinking full bike packer? Does the ChPnt have fork mounts etc?

There is a guy on PL that built a Atheos with zip rack mounts as a packer FWIW.




You'd need some Shamal disc wheels. The double G3 spoke pattern looks as sexy as the Ekar groupo does to me. In fact I want to get a set for that look alone, #confess. Or you can $pend double and more to get the Bora disc G3 version.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

4/23/22 4:10 PM

Checkpoint comparo

Well at this point this is just a passing fancy in a midnight dream, but it’s fun to think about.

At minimum this would be an improved and cooler (IMO) version of the Checkpoint, with bigger gear range and fatter tire clearance. Then there is the question of how far to dip into the endless option list. I don’t think I’ll do full bike packing, but I’d use the bike for errands, groceries, etc., so I’d like some significant carrying capacity. Might want generator lights and fenders. Then it would be ready for P-B-P, haha.

On a slightly more serious note, at 71 I feel it is important for me to keep riding fairly seriously, for both physical and mental health. I obviously don’t need a new bike to do this, but it wouldn’t hurt.

As to wheels, I don’t care for fancy carbon wheels. I’d probably take the option for HED Belgiums.

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dan emery
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4/29/22 7:27 AM

Deposit in

How to configure it, to be determined

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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: hillbilly heaven

4/30/22 1:13 PM

And in a case of perfect timing, Campy released their new gravel wheels, called Levante, yesterday, to match the Ekar group. How can you resisit?

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Sparky
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4/30/22 2:01 PM

I think 35mm smallest tire for the rim on those. Targeting pure gravel use presumably.

And no G3 triplet lacing, MEH. ;) I just really dig that G3 look front and back... #dork

Ans Shamals 21mm internal for road use. So either way you will need both wheelsets. Unless you have a ton of bikes to ride instead, #dorkier-yet.

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dan emery
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4/30/22 2:42 PM

Interesting

Though probably for someone else. As I said, $1900 carbon laser-etched wheels are not really my style, plus the G-Road is designed for 650B and the Levantes ain’t that.

I’ll probably go with Hed Belgiums, and leave the ultralight, race-ready Levantes to the UCI guys.

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Sparky
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4/30/22 3:58 PM

650b too, right.. you'll need 3 wheelsets.

The checkpoint 650b friendly, or BB too low probably.

I run 47x650b on the Strong All road with 8CM BB drop. My pedal thru style has me get an occasional pedal strike, like 3-4 in 7 years of occasional use, winter bike pretty much.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
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5/3/22 7:19 AM

"I’ll probably go with Hed Belgiums, and leave the ultralight, race-ready Levantes to the UCI guys."

UCI guys!? Them's fightin' words!!! #UCIsucks

I feel the same way, Dan; I just can't bring myself to pay two grand for wheels.

The only carbon wheels I own are a pair that came on my gravel, nee 'cross bike, which I bought used. I keep some fat slicks on them and only use them when I do pavement-only rides on the bike, which are rare.

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dan emery
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Location: Maine

5/7/22 10:05 AM

Going full boat

Ekar, Hed Belgium 650bs, Herse Babyshoe Pass 42s, fenders, generator lights, SimWorks rear rack, painted to match Silva pump, Berthoud mirror (and saddle), even a freakin’ bell (removable of course if I don’t like it).

Orange.

Decided to go for utility and versatility.

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Sparky
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5/7/22 10:08 AM

Orange is always good in my book.

Herse Babyshoe Pass 42s, need to hear about this, a size I am on edge of doing...


Look forward to the pic to host. ;)

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dan emery
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6/2/22 2:08 PM

Yikes!

Just got a drawing, they're ready to start building in the next week or so!

Now as long as they can get all the parts....Ekar is available and they started on the parts a couple weeks ago so I think we should be good....

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Sparky
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6/2/22 2:18 PM

"building an Ekar G-Road for himself"

Maybe he liked you and gave up his spot, or decided revenue comes before his own G-Road. Or got told it does...

#bumped ;)

But good news and cool...

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dfcas
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6/3/22 6:05 AM

Orange is the best. I once had 3 orange bikes at the same time. Congrats Dan, sounds like a great bike.

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Sparky
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6/3/22 9:31 AM

Weak spot here for Oranges as well..

But I may a have a yellow streak upon me at some point soon too. ;)

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Brian Nystrom
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6/6/22 2:34 PM

Hmmm...I've never owned either orange or yellow bikes, though I did have a hankerin' for a Motobecane Team Champion back in the day. That was a nice orange!
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/bicycles/Motobecane/Moto_Tm_72-3_Gabriel.htm

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Sparky
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6/6/22 2:53 PM

One of my Nice Steel rides:

Orange, the perfect orange none less IMO.

1st pic after turning it from a Single Speed back to geared. I wish the pic was after the adjustment of the bar rotation, it really tales away from the shot as shots go.

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dan emery
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6/6/22 2:53 PM

That’s a nice Motobecane

Never saw one of those. I saw a number of nice Motos, mostly a kind of upscale touring model, I recall a sort of glossy light brown. A step up from the Raleigh Gran Prix I started with. Don’t think I ever saw one with sewups.

This will be my 3d orange bike, the other 2 being a ‘77 Molteni Colnago Eddy Merckx Special (still one of my favorite bikes) and a ‘01 (with replaced frame) Gunnar Crosshairs which is the bike I’ve ridden D2R2 on. D2R2 guru Sandy Whittlesley was standing around when I was in the start corral one year and commented that he really liked the Crosshairs (set up with a 46/30 VO crank, 531 fork, ATACs, etc. :)

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Brian Nystrom
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6/6/22 7:10 PM

I never saw one in the flesh, either. By the time we picked up the Motobecane line, I already had my race bike and I couldn't afford a stable of race bikes back then.

You may be thinking of the Motobecane Grand Touring, which was definitely a notch or two above the Raleigh Grand Prix, more in line with the Super Course or Grand Sport (we sold Raleigh, too). I actually had a GT that I converted to a single speed with fenders, for early season training and commuting. It was pretty nice for a mid-level touring bike. I returned it to it's original configuration and sold it after I quit racing.

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Nick Payne
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Location: Canberra, Australia

6/25/22 5:54 AM

Well, after riding the Ekar setup around the unsealed hills around here since earlier this year, I've decided that a 38x44 botttom gear isn't low enough for quite a number of the off-road climbs I encounter. Seeing that I wasn't using the Ekar crank, but had fitted a Ratio Technologies 12/13s chainring to a standard 110BCD crank, I was able to swap the 38 chainring for a 34. That gives a nicer low gear for tackling climbs where the gradients get well into double figures.

I wasn't able to find a 34t NW chainring where the teeth were narrow enough to fit the Ekar chain (requires 1.8mm for the narrow teeth), but a couple of minutes in a caustic soda solution was enough to remove the 0.1-0.2mm required for the chainring to fit the chain. A secondary advantage of the caustic soda bath was that the chainring is now silver to match the crank - NW chainrings seem to nearly always be black.

<a href="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tSrHA31Qm7KSbkLo0Fvelm5kDgxjCAy2x3tCuRKs_1Ba_J140LKz89tRBIj0eSx0s3mrdV75LjwhJdI5Kn5bhj4ro2M0eZqdGYh7GflFykP4frp-uUTBMzoYe57wdtfIPOqjE8bKkU0=w2400?source=screenshot.guru"> <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tSrHA31Qm7KSbkLo0Fvelm5kDgxjCAy2x3tCuRKs_1Ba_J140LKz89tRBIj0eSx0s3mrdV75LjwhJdI5Kn5bhj4ro2M0eZqdGYh7GflFykP4frp-uUTBMzoYe57wdtfIPOqjE8bKkU0=w600-h315-p-k" /> </a>

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

6/25/22 1:00 PM

Sparkly clean!

Clever, and I shudder to think of those hills if 38x44 isn’t low enough for you.

That will also be the low on my upcoming Ekar bike, and ought to suffice for the riding I do, which isn’t very extreme these days.

Plus I’m not coming anywhere near caustic soda….:)

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RCoapman
Joined: 09 Feb 2005
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Location: Back in the snowy homeland

6/29/22 9:45 AM

Talked to my friend who owns an LBS yesterday...lead times for any sort of Campy, including Ekar which I asked about, are officially- NOT AVAILABLE, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ORDERING

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19068
Location: PDX

6/29/22 10:39 AM

Wonder if Shimano can get 12s systems deliverable.

I am sticking with my ERGO and Di2 11s with no interest in 12s. I am still amortizing all the 11s and TA disc sheit. No interest in FHB 12s and/or XDR.

With 1x systems I can see the 12s being attractive. But it means need for 10-11T low cog, MEH for me. At 210 lb I'll tuck and coast where most spin out pedaling as gravity/girth has me roll past. 100 GI high is fine IMO. [for me]

A sub compact 2x with a 28/42 still makes most sense to me. Especially with GS RD and 34+ cassettes for a bail out low. But maybe I am thinking too old?

I am reading for 12s SH wise, even 105 will have di2 option. And that no non Di2 Ultegra-Dura Ace mechanical shiftiness anymore.

GRX, not sure about. Not read the 12s path there.

Side Note GRX: I have a 810 GRX 31/48 chainset sitting new in the box. Adding 2.5mm to chainline while sitting cross chained mostly on the 48 has it on the shelf for over year. My 30/46 with a normal chainline sitting on the 46 mostly is cross chained more than I want to spin already.

So far the 1x11 Boone rolling seems to work, but not taken on group ride yet.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

6/29/22 3:44 PM

Ekar

Well hopefully they already have mine, we’ll see.

If not, no big deal as I don’t really need the bike anyway….:)

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Nick Payne
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Location: Canberra, Australia

6/30/22 12:53 AM


quote:
Talked to my friend who owns an LBS yesterday...lead times for any sort of Campy, including Ekar which I asked about, are officially- NOT AVAILABLE, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ORDERING

I bought my Ekar components from Bike-Components in Germany. I just had a quick look, and they seem to have quite a number of the groupsets and individual components in stock, depending on which configuration you want:

https://www.bike-components.de/en/s/?keywords=ekar

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 5096
Location: Nashua, NH

7/1/22 2:55 PM

Bike24 is another good German vendor.

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