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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
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Location: Westchester/NYC

6/10/18 7:30 PM

First crack at Aeropress...

... wasn't exactly what I would called a success.

Taste was a little better than drip coffee but far cry from French Press. That's until I figured out I probably should try the "inverted" method, as I noticed the water started dripping before i started the 'press'. So, further experimentation next weekend.

Though once I started to let it sit and soak, I'm back to the lengthy process just like with the French Press. So I'll have to see if I like the taste any better. Otherwise, I could just stick with the French Press.

The convenient factor is there. But then, so is the French Press. Aeropress does have the edge that I can take it with me camping. Though the reality being, I don't camp all that often these days. So it's mostly only a theoretical advantage at the moment.

So, more experimentation next weekend. Jeez, my "coffee project" is taking longer and longer...

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Sparky
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6/10/18 8:11 PM

Does anybody make coffee/caffeine patches? Like the nicotine ones for quitting smoking...

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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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6/11/18 6:00 AM

tablets, 100mg iirc, a bottle of 50 for the price of a cup of coffee

I wonder if I'm taking your question too seriously

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April
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6/11/18 6:32 AM


quote:

I wonder if I'm taking your question too seriously


Of course you are. What about wine and beer tablets?

But itís interesting to know some silly information, that caffeine is so addictive that they have to be taken as pills!

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henoch
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
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6/11/18 7:20 AM

I dont think they HAVE to be taken as pills, the are mostly used by people who are trying to stay awake but don't want ti drink heaps of coffee as it can affect their stomach.

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April
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6/11/18 10:24 AM

Aeropress is quick enough that I did another test this morning before running out to catch a train to work...

Using the "inverted" method and letting the coffee soak (steep in coffee talk). It produces stronger coffee but also more bitter. Not quite what I've been looking for. Based on what I've read so far, it's probably due to the difference between paper filter vs non-paper filter.

So I have a few more options:

1) add a paper filter to the French Press to get rid of the sludge (but it may remove too much "body" from the brew, will test this weekend)

2) try non-paper filter on the Aeropress (but it may introduce sludge?)

3) Electric Bialetti as recommended by PLee

As I have some leftover paper filter before the drip maker broke, I can try #1 this weekend. In the meantime, I'll be ordering #3 (as it's not locally available).

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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6/11/18 10:44 AM

Aeropress

Of course the coffee is going to vary with the beans you use, how it is ground, and how much water and coffee you use. I don't bother to let it steep and get strong coffee I like, YMMV.

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April
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6/11/18 11:12 AM

Same bean, same amount of coffee and water (I vary the grind to get the best result of each brewing method). I still like the flavor of French Press by a long shot.

I believe itís the filter thatís responsible for the different result. Because French Press and aeropressbis essentially the same process after all. Hence my plan to test the French Press with the added sludge filter.

The Bieletti of course, is an entirely different process. And it doesnít seem too much hassle. So Iím giving that a try too.

But hopefully, my options are narrowing down not expanding.

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daddy-o
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6/12/18 6:50 AM

French press experiment:
When I have overflow sometimes I save it in a cup, like yesterday. I noticed the tolerances of my press plunger would allow a piece of uncut filter paper on the coffee side, so I tried it. It worked, normal setup, paper push. Once today's had cooled down, the two room temperature brews tasted equivalent. YMMV

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Sparky
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6/12/18 11:41 AM

I only use the press with a piece of paper filter. As I said above, it is just a slow press, but worth the extra 45 seconds. Just put the press on something that won't allow a slide during the extra pressure of pushing to overcome the added filter.

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daddy-o
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6/12/18 2:11 PM

There you have it, two sources, the matter is settled. ;-)

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dan emery
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6/12/18 3:56 PM

Can't miss

April dislikes the quality created by a paper filter, and the time and inconvenience of a French press. So by adding a filter to the press, she gets the worst at all worlds! But possibly she avoids a few grounds, which you you don't have to drink anyway.

In my lifetime I've drank so much coffee that goes through a paper filter that I don't conceive of that as a problem, but hey, I'm not a coffee blogger!

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April
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6/12/18 7:36 PM

Dan is correct

... in his logic. If what I read was true, I probably wonít like the paper filter in the French Press.

But itís an easy test to verify the theorey. So thatís what Iíll do the coming weekend, rather than accepting the conclusion derived by Dan. ;-)

If I like the result, however unlikely according to Danís excellent logic, thereíre ready made paper filter made for French Press one can buy. So I wouldnít have to cut them every morning as Dan suggested. It would simply be like a regular French Press.

I like this morning discussion of the various coffee brewing experimentations. Brighten up the day almost as effective as a strong cup of coffee! :)

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April
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6/15/18 7:27 AM

Verified

Today I work from home. So there's time to make another brewing experimentation.

As both Dan and myself expected, French Press with paper filter delivered similar result as AeroPress. Actually, slightly worse from one aspect. As my hand-cut paper filter didn't EXACTLY match the shape of the plunger, some sludge got through. Though it wasn't objectionable amount. So in that regard, it was a success in REDUCING the sludge. But unfortunately, it reduced the flavor considerably.

(I dumped that pot and made another one without the paper filter, the "usual" configuration. It reminded me what I like about the brew result of the French Press)

I'll do the last round of experimentation with Bialetti next week. That should conclude my coffee maker quest.

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Sparky
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6/15/18 11:18 AM

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