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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 4391
Location: metro-motown-area

4/29/18 7:03 PM

OT: dna --> family ancestry research?

we've been watching "finding your roots" on netflix for a while, wifey and i got motivated to learn more than family lore and shipped our spittle off to ancestry.com today.

after signing up with the website, i already have done some records research. turns out my father came to the US thru ellis island on one of the last boats before they retired the facility. also turns out that in 2003 i was on that very boat when visiting gulfport MS visiting friends -- it had been turned into a casino!

anyone else done either the dna thing or records research yet? care to share anything interesting you learned?

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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
Posts: 6593
Location: Westchester/NYC

4/29/18 8:04 PM

My parents' families had lived in the same village for quite a long while till rather recently. So I had most of the family history from the local record and as stories from a large troop of interconnected relatives. Seems reasonably consistent. So I'm not too motivated to do the DNA reading.

My father side of the family was kind of "prominent". So there's plenty of official record. Except, there're sooo many children (== branches), I suspect it can get quite complicated. I certain am NOT interested to know what the heck happens to the hundreds of my 2nd and 3rd and 4th cousins.

One of my cousin, who were born and raised in San Francisco, had no such advantage as me. So she did a bit of digging on her own. And quizzed me at length for the missing part which I filled in for her.

Unlike Europeans, Asians don't move around half as much. I had doubt there's any other genes in my ancestry. I also have doubts on how good the DNA "database" for Asians is to yield anything meaningful.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19068
Location: PDX

4/29/18 10:18 PM

We have my side of the family well documented by my Sis decades ago. And she also did Ancestry in 2017 only to find 99% was correct.

Now Elaine OTOH being British, we got Ancestry for X-mas and she has been learning a lot of her side of the family. She has got in touch with some branches of the tree that split into the US she was not aware of and having a ball at it.

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dddd
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 3345
Location: NorCal

4/30/18 1:29 AM

Big news this past week was the apparent discovery of who the prolific "Golden State Killer" was from back in the 70's and 80's.
The cops apparently searched dna profiles from a DNA ancestry site database to find their closest match to the crime-scene samples from 40 years ago, then identified a relative of that near-match result who fit the location and age profiles already known about the sex-sadist/murder criminal. They then surveilled their new suspect until they could procure a couple of DNA samples and finally concluded he was their man, who has lived 20 miles away all this time and who was ex-military and who was even an ex-cop here in town.

Anywho, I haven't researched my genetic ancestry because at the end of the day it's just statistical data, hardly relevant.

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 4391
Location: metro-motown-area

4/30/18 6:49 AM

my ancestry is a combo of filipino and austrian. both parents came directly from their respective countries. while their respective contributions are both pretty "pure" it gets interesting pretty quickly.

on the filipino side...as i understand it, a huge portion of asians can trace their genetics back to genghis khan. wonder if that applies to SE asia as well? on that side i suspect i'll have some iberian/european dna courtesy of megellan's colonial exploits -- you might say i have a little <i>bad hombre</i> ancestry! #maga #trumpsteaks #dotard

on the austrian side, my research suggest my roots trace back to the hugarian side of the austro-hungarian empire -- maybe melania is my distant cousin! #golddigger #unoriginal #artofthedeal

statistics arent just statistics, combined with a historical perspective they can tell a story!

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Steve B.
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Posts: 769
Location: Long Island, NY

4/30/18 10:35 AM

One of my brothers did a paid Mormon database search, we had reasonably good information about relatives in the Binghamton NY, and northern, PA. area, so had names and dates of births and deaths from gravestones. Thus he discovered an English relative that arrived as an indentured farmer hired to settle the western borders of New England/New Holland along the Conn. River near East Haddam, CT. in the late 1650’s. Others were all basic Irish illegals from Canada in mid 1800’s, snuck in to work the tanning industry in the Catskills. The area is still heavy Irish.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6884
Location: Maine

4/30/18 4:32 PM

Geneology

According to genealogies, I have an ancestor who came over early (16 or 1700s, I forget) and was a furniture maker who allegedly has a piece in the collection of the Boston Museum of Fine Arts. Man, did I ever NOT get that gene!

I really don't care enough about any of this stuff to investigate beyond occasionally reading the genealogies I already have.

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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 2815
Location: hillbilly heaven

4/30/18 5:34 PM

Walter

Which company did you go with? I figure you are a better researcher than me and I'll just steal your judgment:)

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: metro-motown-area

4/30/18 7:50 PM

ancestry.com

alot of buzz around 23andme.com, but as i understand it ancestry has a bigger DNA database.

fwiw...just found this:

https://www.smarterhobby.com/genealogy/23andme-vs-ancestry-dna/

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Anthony Smith
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 848
Location: Ohio

5/10/18 10:19 AM

nationality is not relevant

So my background--my mother is Hungarian (100%) and my father German (100%), but my mother's ancestors came from the Steppe (Mongolia) so I'm biologically Asian on that side (and my eye shape confirms that). My father is German, but Saxon--and whether Saxons are English or German only depends on which side of the Channel they wound up on in around 1100A.D.

So I believe Hungarian/German is an irrellevant misnomer. I am actually Mongol/Saxon.

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