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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19087
Location: PDX12/18/17 8:49 PM |
DT post Amtrack tweets
DT:The train accident that just occurred in DuPont, WA shows more than ever why our soon to be submitted infrastructur…
Next Tweet, oh yeah... thoughts and prayers to the injured and families. Almost forgot...
Which staffer jumped in and got 'POTUS' to do what he shoulda done first?
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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 2816
Location: hillbilly heaven12/18/17 8:52 PM |
Also it was not old infrastructure it was recent upgrades.
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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
Posts: 6593
Location: Westchester/NYC12/18/17 8:55 PM |
Nah, they don’t count. They didn’t bote for him and never will anyway.
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19087
Location: PDX12/18/17 9:11 PM |
"was not old infrastructure it was recent upgrades"
There is that...
They kept reporting that section had a max speed of 79MPH. Looking at the turn before the tracks went over I5 I thought 80? With a turn?
Turns out the max was 30 on the turn and he was doing 81. My vote is on texting at the helm.
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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 1724
Location: SE Pa, USA12/19/17 6:59 PM |
Rumors are distracted by the event/possibly vips.
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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
Posts: 6593
Location: Westchester/NYC12/19/17 8:55 PM |
Whatever happen to Positive Train Control?
There's a requirement for all passenger trains to be fully auto by 2018. This is a new track so should have the control elements. Amtrak claimed all their trains have the corresponding control device already. Some technical foobar?
(ok, I'm working from memory. But this was highlighted when a Metro North train derailed a year or so ago)
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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 5101
Location: Nashua, NH12/20/17 6:47 AM |
The rule is...
...that people have to die before the railroads will implement PTC on a given line.
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KerryIrons
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 3236
Location: Midland, MI12/20/17 9:37 AM |
PTC
PTC requirements keep slipping, driven by both public systems (not enough taxpayer money to make those investments) and private freight companies (next quarter profits put at risk).
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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
Posts: 6593
Location: Westchester/NYC12/20/17 11:17 AM |
During the 3 years since the original deadline (2015), how many derailment and how many deaths?
(I think right now the death toll is around 10? That's not counting the injuries and property damages. How much does THAT cost? How shortsighted can people be?)
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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 5101
Location: Nashua, NH12/20/17 12:07 PM |
There is no limit...
...to human:
stupidty
thoughlessness
shortsightedness
greed
cruelty
Feel free to add to the list.
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19087
Location: PDX12/20/17 7:22 PM |
News follow up on the train and PTC. Train had PTC, but the system is not live yet here in the PNW like it is in the NE..
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PLee
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 3713
Location: Brooklyn, NY12/21/17 6:28 AM |
At the end of the day, we need to develop a culture that prizes dedication to the job and professionalism at every level. There were two people in the engineer's compartment - this was not an instance of someone falling asleep at the controls. Someone was not paying attention to their job.
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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
Posts: 6593
Location: Westchester/NYC12/21/17 7:15 AM |
quote:
Someone was not paying attention to their job.
Or someone being asked to do too many tasks at the same time?
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19087
Location: PDX12/21/17 10:53 AM |
"There were two people in the engineer's compartment"
The one guy was teaching the other role wise. Teaching the new guy how to crash you might say.
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19087
Location: PDX12/24/17 12:28 PM |
And then there is this:
President Trump was in a celebratory mood on Friday night and told a group of his wealthy friends, “You all just got a lot richer” after he signed the tax cuts into law. Trump reportedly uttered the words to a group of friends who were having dinner nearby at Mar-a-Lago.
@ $200k plus to join $14k per year.
#DT_Translation: Now you will have to pay $375k to join and $28k per year to maintain.
[insert snickering Muttley gif]
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