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Domanes 1/2 a season later.
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

9/15/17 7:34 PM

Domanes 1/2 a season later.

How are we still digging our RSL Dan?
Marc has one too as I recall, And Brian a Di2 Domane, or was that a Di2 disc something else?

I have been favoring mine since a seat swap, no so much prior. Parked that new 11-34 cassette on the Domane and was hitting some hills I have been avoiding. Cassette is pretty road like shifting for such a MTB like cassette in use. Perhaps the Di2 being so deterministic is the key there. Now I wanna try a Di2 MTN bike. ;)

I took out the 753 Lugged sled yesterday, and it felt so different after Domane daze for weeks. ;)
Wound up on some packed sandy dirt going down into a Basalts hideaway along the river with the Paves on the Reynolds steelie. She climbed outta there much better than I expected while others were walking the bikes out. ;)

Dan, have you ridden the Sachs after some continued Domane use?

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

9/15/17 8:43 PM

Domane

In sad truth my riding has slacked off a bit this year due to various factors including a slow start due to my busted leg, my current surgery per week schedule, and also a bunch of travel to conferences (currently in Phoenix where it's been up to 108F). And now I have to sort out if I have limitations on riding due to the aortic aneurysm (appointments on that coming up quick).

However I've ridden the Domane a fair amount and continue to love it. To me, what's not too like? It's an excellent road bike that's I can also bounce over gnarly washboard dirt with 26 mm tires. I did ride the Sachs after riding the Domane awhile. The position on the two seems identical, the Sachs handles a bit quicker which I prefer, and the Domane takes big hits better although the Sachs also has a great ride.

I think the Chorus 11 speed mechanical is just as good as the eTap, and in fact slightly quicker.

I prefer the 11-27 on the Sachs to the 11-28 on the Domane, one gap on the 11-28 is just a little too big for my taste on a road bike (I happily ride a 12-32 on my cross bike).

They are both excellent bikes - the Sachs is prettier of course although the Domane looks pretty good for a plastic bike. I'm delighted to ride either.

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Marc N.
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 457
Location: Israel

9/16/17 1:55 AM

SL 7

Mine isn`t so high end but I couldn`t be happier with the bike. Rode it 3 hours earlier and there were 2 points where the road was being prepared for resurfacing and the ride was markedly better than my other bikes over such a poor surface. My one complaint is the 11 - 32 cassette. As I have said in the past, while I enjoy having the 32, the 11 and 12 are a waste and I wish the 11 speeds were 13 - 32. As a result, I prefer the 13 - 29 that`s on my Spectrum to the 11 - 32 on the Domaine. I for one, find the bike beautiful.

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Sparky
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9/16/17 9:51 AM

"Mine isn`t so high end"

Considering it has the front and rear ISO de-couplers and the upper end seatpost mast setup... Not sure upper levels of carbon would really net anything except a lighter wallet honestly.

I would love in a test ride fest to ride a succession of the 4 Series with the normal seatpost, a version 5 series OCLV like yours, mine is a 6.9 but no front ISO Gizmo, a 6 series with front and rear, and of course a RSL.

I will for sure be looking for a RSL 60CM at some point, 700 series OCLV USA made supposedly. When I get a deal like I did on both the Madone 4and Domane 6 I have now. Fixed budget don't ya know. ;)

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
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Location: Nashua, NH

9/16/17 11:43 AM

If you meant me...

...I have Di2 on a Niner BSB 'cross bike and don't own anything from Trek other than Bontrager shoes. Not that I have anything against them...

FWIW, the Niner is extremely stiff, but after swapping out the saddle (more flex and padding) and handlebars (Al 3Ts instead of the stupid-stiff Thompson carbon bars), installing Cannondale Synapse 3.5mm tape over a layer of generic cork tape, and switching to 40mm tubeless rubber, it feels pretty good on gravel and trail rides now.

My custom Di2 setup is working great in terms of shift, but I still don't like the shape of Shimano levers.

The final piece of the puzzle is a change to a 46/30 FSA SL-K Adventure crank, which will be here next week. I'm putting one on Linda's 'cross bike, too. That will give me much better gearing options than the 46/36 cranks that's on there now. I'll be able get lower than 1:1 (30x32) for trail rides and the killer dirt road hills around here, or pop on a tighter cassette for gravel rail trail and paved road riding.

I installed some 35mm Schwalbe Kojak tires on the carbon wheels that came with the bike, which tamed the frame's harshness on the road (at 45/50 psi, front/rear). They feel noticeably slower than the 25s on my road bike, so apparently there's a limit to the "wider tire = lower rolling resistance" trend. Granted, it's not a completely fair comparison, since I'm not riding both tires on the same bike.

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Sparky
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9/16/17 11:59 AM

"a change to a 46/30 FSA SL-K Adventure crank"

For sure let us know how the Di2 FD handles this.
I only remembered you did get the Di2, forgot if it was a Domane and too lazy to peruse back. ;)

I put a 34/52 on the Domane and it is a tad slower hopping up than the 34/50. I just make a habit of being at higher RPM for the hop.

I only thought I'd try it due to having all the rings already, and using the 14-28 juniors cassette I decided to try. My thinking being no 12 adding 2 to the front would compensate.

But have been running the 11-34 now these past 2 weeks anyway. Which I find shifts as well as the 12-32 I also have.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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9/16/17 12:02 PM

46/30

I've had a 46/30 on my cross bike for years, along with a 12-32, so it sounds like we'll end up with the same gearing. Works great for me. The 30x32 got me through D2R2.

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Sparky
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9/16/17 12:12 PM

On the Domane rear, I find if I push bigger watts for longer stents when the ISO is working hard it trashes my lower back muscles. Perhaps it is fair to surmise the hip rotation the movement of the seat/post allows may be causing this for me. I don't tend to use it as a go fast bike.

Conversely, the Madone [or Addict] I don't experience this on, The Madone has a P6 post which moves maybe 1/2 as much. The Addict is an ISP, suffice to say it moves little to none.

The Madone also has 1 CM less BB drop, my 58 Domane with 78mm. I wonder what impact if any this has on the equation for my aging back.

Perhaps [if I surmise correctly on this] the adjustable rear on the RSL could improve it for me. Not just saying this for justification for the RSL, but the less endurance front GEOM on the RSL also attracts me toward it.

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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Location: SE Pa, USA

9/16/17 12:17 PM

Dan- aortic aneurysm? I missed the memo. How are you?

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Sparky
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9/16/17 12:24 PM

I was waiting for the update as well. An answer I feared. ;O

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

9/16/17 1:25 PM

Aortic Aneurysm

I'm fine. As I mentioned in another thread, they picked it up doing a scan for a different issue. Then I had an echocardiogram, now I will have an angiogram. Anyway, it is in a range where likely they will monitor it, and if it gets large enough surgery is indicated.

This is all very recent, and I haven't spoken with specialists yet. From the infallible internets it is not clear what limits may be placed on exertion in the meantime. Some triathletes with the condition continue to train, etc. But I'll get the best opinion I can and follow it.

I have the Dempsey 2 Day with Big George in a couple weeks, I think they may say that's OK, but I'll follow instructions. The Antarctica trip in February is looking a bit doubtful - there probably is a pretty low chance of anything happening in that timeframe, but even so I'm not sure I want to be on a boat down there for 2 weeks. And the organizers might bounce me anyway when they learn of this, I dunno.

Meanwhile I have no symptoms.

The outcomes of surgery seem pretty good. There is an NBA player who had surgery for an AA 5 years ago and is still playing.

So I'm not glad I have it, but given that I have it, I'm glad they found it. Thanks for asking.

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Sparky
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9/16/17 1:31 PM

Abdominal then?

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

9/16/17 1:35 PM

Thoracic

Ascending

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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: hillbilly heaven

9/16/17 1:54 PM

Dan I hope it doesn't cause you problems. Seems you've had more than your fair share lately.

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greglepore
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9/16/17 3:56 PM

Good to hear Dan. Hope the rough patch ends shortly. As I age, each little thing seems to rob time in a different proportion than it used to.

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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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Location: Springfield

9/16/17 4:58 PM

Dan, you're lining things up to break a hundred.

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Marc N.
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
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9/16/17 10:11 PM

Dan - It`s the Jewish New Year this week, so I`ll take advantage of it to wish you a better year health wise (actually in all other ways as well) than the one you just had, As dfcas said, it seems you have had your fair share of health issues recently.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

9/17/17 4:39 AM

Thanks all

I appreciate the thoughts. It has been kind of one thing after another this year, though really the only symptoms I've had are from the busted leg, which is now fine. The other stuff is better to know about than not know about, and I'm lucky to have good and thorough doctors as I could easily not know about any of it. I neglected regular doctor visits for many years, but now I know better. And thank goodness for Medicare...

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dfcas
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Location: hillbilly heaven

9/17/17 2:38 PM

Speaking of Medicare, it looks like I'll be able to get a continuos glucose monitor now that I'm 65. They won't let me use my phone or a watch to display it, but I'll happily carry the Dexcom receiver. It will be nice to follow my blood glucose all the time, particularly while riding.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
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Location: Nashua, NH

9/18/17 5:45 AM

Either we get some "new blood" here...

...or we're going to have to change the name to the "Geriatric Cycling Forum".

Seriously, is there anyone here under 50? It doesn't seem like there are many under 60 anymore.

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: metro-motown-area

9/18/17 6:55 AM

i'm 49

for a couple more months... ;-)

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Sparky
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9/18/17 10:21 AM

Walter is a youngen. ;)

I was wondering about that. A lot of us have been posting here for decades, that is kind of a cool family IMO. Even with some injections of personality clashes here and there, it is cool.

Watching the Woman's UCI Worlds Cyclocross. Have not noticed a non disc bike yet.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

9/18/17 2:26 PM

Aneurysm evaluation

Interesting issue in determining how to treat the aneurysm in someone like me who, left to their own devices, would crank the heart up to max on occasion. The PCP this morning suggested keeping hr to 120 (my max is in the 170s) and I whined "I can't do anything with that." Not arguing, just observing. He freely admitted that there is little research on this (which is consistent with what I have read). I think I complained enough that they are doing an imaging stress test, which measures the blood pressure response to exertion. Then I have an angiogram and ultrasound and talk to the cardiothoracic surgeon.

I'm also starting on bp and cholesterol meds though I need neither independent of this. They started with a low bp dose and cut it in half when they saw my low hr.

Another interesting aspect is that while they prefer not to do surgery until necessary because there is risk with the surgery, OTOH if the surgery is successful the problem is fixed and I could have no limitations. As I said in another post there is an NBA player who had the surgery and is still playing. Though I expect I will heed conservative recommendations.

Anyway, with all the tests there will be plenty of information!

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sanrensho
Joined: 20 Feb 2004
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Location: North Vancouver

9/18/17 5:29 PM

I'm 48 for a few more months.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
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Location: Nashua, NH

9/18/17 5:36 PM

My Next Bike

I'm feelin' my age a bit these days...

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