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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

8/22/17 6:11 PM

Bryan Fogel / Russian doping / Icarus

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/06/541929810/icarus-filmmaker-talks-stumbling-on-international-doping-scandal


Icarus is on Netflix.


Exit: watching it now. Holy shit!

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
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Location: Nashua, NH

8/23/17 6:46 AM

I've only watched about half of it...

...but it's pretty insane. They're so matter-of-fact about what's required to beat doping tests, how easy it is and the steps that the Russians took with their athletes. If the Armstrong debacle didn't make you question everything you thought you knew about doping in sports, this definitely will.

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Rickk
Joined: 01 Jun 2004
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Location: Montreal

8/23/17 8:02 AM

Thanks for sharing
Will check it out on Netflix eventually

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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Location: SE Pa, USA

8/24/17 7:43 AM

Thanks, will watch over the weekend

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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8/24/17 10:18 AM

The direction of the body of investigative research for the project sure took a detour. And made for a whole different documentary than initially intended.

So why did the IOC fold and allow the Russian Athletes to go to the RIO OLYS, ignoring the WADA finding of the investigations???

If LA can get a lifetime ban, seems the entire Russian Sports body ought to as well, following same example. In fact it seems like the Russian example went a whole lot further than what got reported in LA's case.

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Brian Nystrom
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8/24/17 10:43 AM

You're right

The Russian athletes, their trainers and anyone else associated should have been banned for life, IF WADA was going to be fair about it. Unfortunately, WADA is like the IOC, the UCI and the NFL for that matter; it's a little fiefdom that's not really answerable to much of anyone when it comes to its decisions. It's not beyond being influenced by external forces nor is it incorruptible. With as embarrassing to WADA as the Russian scandal was/is, I'm sure that they just wanted to make it go away as quickly and quietly as possible.

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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
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Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real

8/24/17 5:51 PM

I was ignoring the flick thinking is was some political tripe. I guess I need to watch it now.

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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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Location: Springfield

8/30/17 6:48 PM

This is kind of a highfalutin website that referenced the movie with a couple thousand words. The link might be worth clicking for the other headlines. With a name like "Lawfare" it does emphasize rule of law.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/understand-russian-election-interference-start-movie-about-doping

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henoch
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 1690

9/18/17 1:39 PM

Podcast

For those that are interested, the Cyclingtips has a long interview with the guy on their latest episode.

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