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PowerTap P1 pedal and C1 chainring power meters launched
 

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

3/17/15 3:59 PM

PowerTap P1 pedal and C1 chainring power meters launched

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/powertap-p1-pedal-and-c1-chainring-power-meters-launched

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 5101
Location: Nashua, NH

3/18/15 4:50 AM

The chainring setup...

...is a brilliant idea, especially for old farts like me who ride compact cranks. Unfortunately, it will require a change of cranks for most racers.

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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Location: SE Pa, USA

3/18/15 6:10 AM

The other thing is that their compact is limited to a 36 due to the size of the pod.

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sandiway
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
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Location: back in Tucson

3/18/15 7:29 AM

pedals

The all-in-one pedals seem to have an advantage over Garmin Vector in that there is no separate pod and calibration. They are a bit heavy but use AAA batteries.

So you could take the pedals and easily move it to another bike. Or take it with you when traveling and renting bicycles. I don't think it'll be so easy to move the Vector.

I look forward to seeing dcrainmaker's review.

Sandiway

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

3/18/15 11:35 AM

Big swing in price. As predicted in previous thread, system will get a lot friendlier. $699 list for the spider with rings is the perfect example of this.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

3/18/15 12:34 PM

pricing options

They ought to have a low price model for those of us who can't generate any significant power. Eco Friendly, Energy Star.

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rickhardy
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 1492
Location: Needham outside of Boston - the hub of the universe

3/18/15 12:43 PM

My power meter

While a power meter is certainly an important tool for a professional cyclist, the bulk of them are of course sold to amateurs who misinterpret their amateur status and poor results as signs that they need to spend a huge amount of money on a power meter when in fact their amateur status and poor results are actually the very reasons they don't need a power meter. If you're an amateur, buying a power meter to train is like hiring an accountant to tell you how broke you are or like buying an iPhone just to check your Cannondale stock. Yet amateurs not only buy power meters, but they think $1,000 for a power meter is actually cheap. Clearly then, I will make a fortune when I introduce my own power meter at next year's Interbike, since it will be the cheapest and most accurate one ever. Yes, for $5 you'll get an LCD display which constantly flashes the message, "You suck."

From Bike snob NYC

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greglepore
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Location: SE Pa, USA

3/18/15 1:02 PM

Very limited view. I've never been more than a recreational cyclist, albeit serious. I've had power meters for almost 15 years. They are excellent pacing tools, and useful for training as well, regardless of your ultimate output. Yes, I know I suck.

As far as pricing goes, yeah, under 1k is going to be the new norm for dual sided powermeters, and probably below 500 for single sided.

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ErikS
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3/18/15 1:30 PM

the pedals would not work well for a crit racer. bang and crash in tight race.

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henoch
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 1690

3/18/15 9:09 PM

To Ricks post

I know you are just kind of making a joke, but according to that logic we should all be riding $200 bikes from Target.

I would in fact argue that the opposite is true, if you are born with limited talent but want to be the best rider you can be then training with a power meter will help you get there much better then without one, If that's worth $500 or $1k or $3k only you can decide.

As to Sparky's original post, I think that these are game changers as far as bringing power to a wider audience, I would also be very worried if I was Stages or Power2Max.

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sandiway
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Posts: 4902
Location: back in Tucson

3/18/15 9:26 PM


quote:
the pedals would not work well for a crit racer. bang and crash in tight race.


Can we assume people don't ride their best bike in a (training) crit. Too risky.

Put the pedals on the good bike.

Sandiway

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rickhardy
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 1492
Location: Needham outside of Boston - the hub of the universe

3/19/15 9:11 AM

Henoch

You are correct the quotation was posted a joke (I own two powertaps one older "yellow head" and a G3 hub) except the part where it says I suck...that part IS true I put out the FTP of a gerbil ask anyone who has raced with me....:)

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henoch
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
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3/19/15 11:35 AM

I bet you that Gerbils have a really high W/kg :)

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6890
Location: Maine

3/19/15 12:26 PM

Excellent point Henoch

Indoors you are pretty much independent of the kg thing....

Can't wait to get on the road and see how all this indoor training translates to real riding on the road. At least my kg are less than they used to be...

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

3/19/15 8:09 PM

I feel like a gerbil in a spinning cage fest about 45 minutes into a computrainer session I can tell you.

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