7/3/14 8:08 AM

a chinese-made dirty-disco offered by planet-x and a host of other dealers. still building it up, my first disc-equipped bike so it'll be a learning process. fairly geometry with a proper road-bike stance, which is what i was after.

i'm using some old-school sun metal box section clincher rims, shaped similar to MA40s and with a nice warm anodized finish not unlike the legendary ambrosio nemesis. still gotta build up my disc front wheel, maybe this weekend - just threw in an old beater up front for the pic.

i was trying to finish the stem so it'd look like anodized silver...the paint i found originally filled the bill...until i applied the clear-coat, at which point the awesome ersatz anodized appearance turned into battleship gray. gotta figger this one out :-/

DT panel is a mockup, having a vinyl die-cut sticker made as we speak.

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7/3/14 8:30 AM

Interesting!

Perfect compliment to the weight-weenie Trek on the other thread. ;-)

7/3/14 10:01 AM

being of chinese extraction, i'm curious -- do you take offense at the downtube panel? historically, chinaman can have a negative meaning...which i do not intend.

i'm asian and have experienced my share of racial negativism but being filipino i dont have the chinese cultural foundation to make a clear read on how it would be taken. i felt it a good-sounding name to use to honor its place of origin. irishman, englishman, frenchman...it's all the same to me.

sandy, i dont remember if you're chinese, but certainly asian and your view would certainly be interesting.

7/3/14 10:06 AM

Do you have a forward saddle position? The 74* seat angle is a deal breaker for me, and you show a non setback seatpost.

7/3/14 10:09 AM

I have that exact frame built up as my trainer/winter/rain bike with Force 10-speed.

Downtube panel is a definite "no go" for me and for the area I live. I'm not Chinese but it definitely has negative connotations from times past.

7/3/14 10:28 AM

I think you answered your own question: "historically, chinaman can have a negative meaning"

I'm not personally offended by it, because I didn't live here at a time that term was often used with the negative connotation.

However, the term has not acquired any new or positive connotation since those days. So, it is still what is was, a term with negative connotation.

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7/3/14 10:29 AM

i actually need to get a back-set seatpin. 74 is past the limit for what this thomson can support to get me the right back-set, right now my saddle is 1cm shy of where it needs to be. have a silver deda RS01 inbound.

i bought it knowing how this would work. it has a short TT compared to what i normally spec, but that combined with the steep STA and a seatpin with enough back-set i can enough effective reach for the frame to work for me.

7/3/14 10:55 AM

Walter, did you already have a CX bike?

If I may chime in on the panel Logo, the name caught me immediately. I am US born, even my parents and grandparents too. European prior to that, yadya. I have short tolerance for bigotry in any form personally FWIW, and it seems unnecessary basically to me, just IMO.

Maybe some more positive Asian symbols would be appropriate? I was thinking of using some of these for some things...

ebay vinyl offerings:

7/3/14 11:42 AM

fwiw...in the final vinyl, the letters will be die cut, allowing the CF weave to show thru.

7/3/14 11:55 AM

Much better!! I have to say, I just opened this thread now and my first reaction was "Whoa! You're kidding me . . . really???" So, yeah, there's still plenty of negativity around that term. I've been called that more than once in my life, and it was never intended in a positive light . . . based on the context in which that term was thrown in my face.

7/3/14 12:23 PM

How about "Emonda"?

If yer gonna be grinding gravel, I presume you'll be giving thought to the tires...

Disc brakes, I have them on one bike, they stop the bike well but a bit touchy for my tastes - for most use I'd rather have good ol' cantis.

7/3/14 12:31 PM

+10, much better. In fact cooler too IMO. ;)

Canti brakes can have the benefit of straddle length/angle diddling for road/VS off road modulation/power.

Done the discs for road use a few times, kind of got it out of my system pretty much. I like 700C discs it turns out. ;) But for wet if you have nice wheels that do not have ceramic rims... different story perhaps.


Have not seen a Ferrari sticker on a bike since the C-35. ;)


Maybe it should have been CHINA MON with a cannabis leaf?? Then you could dis multiple folks ethnicity simultaneously. ;O ;)

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7/3/14 12:34 PM

no self respecting cyclist would rock a prancing horse! its de Leeuw van Vlaanderen. you see all the flemish fans waving the flag during the flemish classics.

7/3/14 12:36 PM

Cool. did not look close enough obviously.

Do you have a CX bike, I forget??


Also, what is that crankset. Sexy in a traditional way. A way I am sorry seems to be going the way of the dodo.

7/3/14 12:50 PM

but it was a <a href="http://majortaylorcycling.org/bikes/walter_bridgestone_rb2-cross.jpg">boat-anchor</a>, sold it.

so this is my crosser/grinder/whatever bike now.

7/3/14 1:43 PM

Pretty CXer there. The S&S probably did not help in the anchor dept either. ;) And an All steel Fork to boot. ;)

Is that a BB7 rear brake on the disc bike?

7/3/14 2:08 PM

front wheel is just a temp 'til i get the disc hub laced up this weekend. this frame is disc only.

7/3/14 2:11 PM

used proudly state your "chinese-ness"?

flemish have "flandrian".
australians have "aussie".
filipinos have "pinoy".
americans have "redneck" ;-)

7/3/14 2:16 PM

americans have "redneck" ;-)


For Pete's sake...

7/3/14 2:21 PM

It looks like a BB7 to me.

For "gravel", I have to ask what is the head tube angle?

What are the tire clearances like?

The short-looking stays and "vertical" seat tube angle would be fine for me, even off-road, but a steep head tube angle would tend to limit my riding to firmer road surfaces.

This build sort of begs for a Shimergo setup for me. Got parts?

7/3/14 6:15 PM

BB7 corrext.

HTA is 73deg, unremarkable.

Very generous tyre clearance, will post pics later.

Silver themed ergo-10 build underway.

7/3/14 8:59 PM

I didn't know "rednect" is a term for proud american!

No, I'm not aware of any term for Chinese, except "Chinese"!

7/3/14 9:03 PM

didn't know "rednecK" is a term for proud american!

It isn't. It's softest meaning if I am not mistaken is poor white person of the south, I believe.

7/4/14 5:42 AM

I'm old enough to remember President Johnson saying;

"Ah-mur-icans"

7/4/14 6:08 AM

That's "Mah fello Ah-mur-icans"