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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 5101
Location: Nashua, NH

11/8/13 11:31 AM

For those of you who haven't had enough...

...there's an interesting 4-part interview with Lance Armstrong on the Cycling News site:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features

I really hope the UCI does have a truth & reconciliation commission. It would be nice to get the full picture of what was going on in the peloton.

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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 1724
Location: SE Pa, USA

11/8/13 3:07 PM

Hilarious_
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/58191312">Creep

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Matthew Currie
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 802
Location: Vermont

11/11/13 4:37 PM

I heard a little of an interview on PBS, pretty much the same old same old. Why are they picking on me? It's unfair to go back so many years. I'd do this but that, I'd do that but this. They all did it, why are they picking on me? Oh poor me.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 5101
Location: Nashua, NH

11/12/13 5:32 AM

This one's somewhat different

If you haven't read it, you may want to.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19083
Location: PDX

11/12/13 1:22 PM

Things that caught my eye:
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"they have a couple of big victories and then they have those off season parties and all of a sudden the season comes around and they’re fucked. All I really cared about was getting back to July."

This, to me, says a lot. Clean or dirty. Biggest component perhaps is the component of will?
There are some things he can say that are just plain truths after all.
_____
"All I’m saying is that I want to be accurate about what happened."

I find a perpetual picture painter non capable. In the situation his habits would trump what he might want to believe beforehand about himself. If after the fact [post hammer falling/charge letter] who would believe a word he says anyway. Take Floyd as example. Now I am telling the truth? yeah...

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"That’s not a comprehensive way to clean up the sport."

LA being the expert ? ;)


I find it laughable that LA actually expects the powers that be should allow the fox to do the clean up of the raids on the hen house. Especially when all the folks know how severely manipulative LA 'IS'.

I still agree on the level playing field scenario. But LA is an idiot if he thinks he will be on the bureaucracy podium ever.

The perjury podium... Yep.

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mag7
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 888
Location: Lake James, NC

11/12/13 3:04 PM

There is a nagging part of me that believes LA will tap dance his way back to the limelight.
You gotta believe his "team" includes PR handlers who know a thing of two about polishing bad apples.

Noticed his tweets have resumed after a long lull and it's all about the cancer community where clearly he did a lot of good.

The bad as far as doping is concerned seems no worse than his rivals.
I find myself agreeing with the question:
Does LA's extreme level of arrogance and machismo justify the backlash?
Are not those the traits that we as spectators come to expect with sport's elite class?
The idea of getting in the other guy's head?

Still have Jan's comment swirling in my head "he finished first" and what I believe the rest of that statement is "we (the contenders for the overall) were all doping, and LA was the best."

I don't want to like him again, but my admiration for him was so great for so long that I find myself starting to reflect more and more on the good he did....and the bad not being that much worse than his rivals.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19083
Location: PDX

11/12/13 6:01 PM

"my admiration for him was so great for so long that I find myself starting to reflect more"

I could care less personally about him, personally.

Most data indicates he is a total dick head. A lot of top athletes are that and worse.

Nothing will erase the enjoyment of mine watching him and especially Jan duking out. Marco too. The American contingency in cycling aligned with my most enjoyed cycling time. It could have been any douche, but at least it was an American one. ;)

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rickhardy
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 1492
Location: Needham outside of Boston - the hub of the universe

11/18/13 4:10 PM

On your way UNDER the bus Hein

Rats ratting on each other:

http://www.boston.com/sports/other-sports/cycling/2013/11/18/armstrong-uci-head-planned-tour-doping-cover/HnnkEmfVlgDXdZAid0TkqK/story.html

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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real

11/18/13 4:19 PM

This sounds very plausible.

Follow the money.

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Wayne
Joined: 21 Jan 2004
Posts: 1475
Location: Newark, DE

11/18/13 5:11 PM

It's hard to con a con-man.

"Since when does anyone believe Lance Armstrong? When with Oprah Winfrey he said he never settled something with the UCI? Or since he makes movies and interviews and hints that there are juicy stories to come?

“His story is illogical because it was not a positive anti-doping offence, in the opinion of the competent authority. That authority was not the UCI, but the French Ministry. After allegations a year back of a large-scale complicity at the UCI over doping by Lance Armstrong and his team, we are now back to a cortisone-case from 1999 that wasn’t even from the UCI. Sincerely, Hein Verbruggen.”

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mag7
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 888
Location: Lake James, NC

11/18/13 5:18 PM

Emma O'Reilly a.k.a. "the alcoholic prostitute" is now tweeting that after her meeting with LA it was "good to finally sit down with @lancearmstrong."
I got this feeling that once he's done ratting out people, LA makes a comeback that to many of us is unthinkable.
If I was advising the producers of the upcoming LA film I think I'd tell them to stop the presses - the biggest part of this story may not be known yet.

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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Posts: 3307
Location: Springfield

11/18/13 6:19 PM

Emma context

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2508927/Lance-Armstrong-called-prostitute-alcoholic--Emma-OReilly.html

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19083
Location: PDX

11/18/13 7:30 PM

I think O'Reily's doberman should bite lance on the Testicle...

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