10/25/13 11:15 AM

They're on sale for $37.44 each, plus an additional 10% off with the code NATIONAL10US and free shipping at $40. A pair will cost $67.38 to your door. They have 23s and 25s in stock.

10/26/13 10:15 AM

On the subject of tires, I got NOS/NIB 25C Axial Pros for $12.50 ea the other day. When did Axial Pros stopped getting made? I use to run one on the rear and a Supersonic on the front around the turn of the century..

10/26/13 11:11 AM

Those are some smokin' deals!

10/26/13 11:27 AM

Did this about a month ago. Only had 23s at the time. My local REI is asking $65.

10/26/13 11:47 AM

I have been paying between $36-43.00 per tire shipped for GP4kS and GP4-All Seasons for quite a while from PBK. FWIW, how many heads ups threads have I posted. ;)

10/26/13 4:30 PM

My only problem with ProBikeKit is slow delivery. Recently I ordered a Campy cassette from them and it took a month to arrive. I've had much faster service from Ribble and Wiggle, also in the UK and both have comparable prices.

10/28/13 7:30 AM

FWIW, the last 25mm GP4000 I had on the back of my P3C just got replaced after 12,465 km...YMMV, but still this impressed me.

10/28/13 3:49 PM

I have never gotten good wear out of conti tires.

Vitts seem to last forever though.

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10/28/13 4:24 PM

Eric, the GP4000s tire can be worn down to a very flat profile with a rubber layer still remaining , and still resist flats.

Paul, what pressure were you running out back over those 12,465km?

10/28/13 6:31 PM

I go to the cord and rotate my tires.

10/29/13 6:57 AM

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11/3/13 9:07 AM

I pump up to 120psi no more than once a week, so they are usually down to about 100 when they get pumped back up.

The tire had been flat profiled for a very long time and when I replaced it I could see cord showing through on roughly 20%...for some sick reason I really wanted to try to get it so at least half the 'tread' was cord but out of deference to my riding companions, who would have to sit around watching me boot an obviously worn out tire, I put a new one on. That's one of the problems with riding in late fall, it's too cold to be fixing flats, particularly when they could be easily avoided.

BTW, the worn tired weighed 20 grams less than when new.

11/6/13 11:07 AM

PBK additional sale

That puts [if my math is correct] 4ks @ 32.00 each.

11/7/13 6:07 AM

...on 23's only.

11/7/13 8:24 AM

I got the ProBikeKit deal on 6 Vittoria Rubino Pro Slicks at $23.70 each with free delivery.

Today I got a Nashbar ad e-mail offering 25% off and their sale price is now $33.70 each plus I'd pay tax and shipping.

11/8/13 6:15 AM

It seems pretty obvious that the US importers are screwing everyone in this market. Based on the pricing difference between US and European dealers, it seems that the wholesale price here in the US is roughly the same as the retail price in Europe.

11/8/13 9:13 AM

When it comes to ability of the importers to jack prices, it's mostly a function of interdependence between different nation's production capability taking the place of independence.
Believe it or not, it was Jimmy Carter's admin (with Z-Big on board) that semi-publicly (within academic circles at least) adopted interdependence as it's mantra, not that any subsequent admin seems to have ever had a problem with that!

So the domestic mfg's we once relied on to develop state of the art products (tires in this case) threw in the towel a long time ago.

Where domestic suppliers aren't protected against international wage disparity, it seems the suppliers will go overseas until and unless the labor rates are then forced back toward equality.
Meanwhile, the importers are the ones in competition as much as the foreign mfg's are in competition amongst themselves, and of course our distrib's can be stacked, each taking their cut to the tune of higher retail prices.

Not to take this in a political direction or anything, but this stuff is on record.

11/8/13 9:30 AM

I am thinking Michelin and Conti being French and German companies and some of the biggest... Well fill in the dots.

I did notice the Conto MK that came with the 29er are made in Taiwan and not Germany. A little disparaging IMO. When I see the GPs say made in Taiwan near or at the current price point...

11/8/13 10:35 AM

Perhaps the reason for the price difference is the both the Pound and the Euros' value has dropped when compared to USD. This makes the US Dollar much stronger and european/GBP imports cheaper. A quick look at the forex, and it appears to be the case.

11/8/13 4:55 PM

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Perhaps the reason for the price difference is the both the Pound and the Euros' value has dropped when compared to USD.

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11/8/13 5:26 PM

Brit wholesale price is likely lower to account for VAT at retail.

11/8/13 5:36 PM

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11/8/13 6:28 PM

They reduce the wholesale price in UK to account for VAT at retail, they don't need to do that in US, therefore if you ordr from UK you get the advantage of lower price b/c you don't pay the VAT.

There's apparently enough margin that Conti can absorb the lower wholesale in UK.

11/8/13 6:54 PM

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There's apparently enough margin that Conti can absorb the lower wholesale in UK.

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11/8/13 7:47 PM

Not to mention the container with the French and German tires has to travel a lot less of a distance to the UK than the states. Think that has some effect on the price here maybe?