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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real7/23/13 4:53 PM |
Same basic weight. We discussed it.
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19079
Location: PDX7/23/13 4:58 PM |
Have the same VO2 max ? I am just making the point. Empirical perhaps, but... whatever... ;)
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Paul Datars
Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 1229
Location: Manotick, Ontario, Canada7/23/13 6:17 PM |
"I did a lot of riding this weekend and during centuries you have time to talk when not pulling as most know."
Hmmm, I always wondered what was going on back there :-)
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19079
Location: PDX7/23/13 6:28 PM |
Psst..Paul is turning his head, look like you are working....
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real7/23/13 9:45 PM |
Paul, rest assured, I worked my ass off.
When people complain about your long hard pulls and you aren't smoking something, you are earning your keep in the bunch.
I got lots of complaints and they were not for sitting on sucking wheels.
Sparky
Vo2 max has nothing to do with power required to go a certain speed. It was all drag on bone flat roads. 300 feet of climbing in 100 miles Sunday.
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19079
Location: PDX7/23/13 9:58 PM |
Going to stick with 'whatever' ;)
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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Posts: 3307
Location: Springfield7/24/13 7:48 AM |
Smiley faces aren't helping these days.
I'm not sure what's going on with the forum's sense of humor.
:-(
(frownie is meant to be humorous in this case ;-))
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Paul Datars
Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 1229
Location: Manotick, Ontario, Canada7/24/13 6:54 PM |
While it depends somewhat on the group, when I pull I usually try to do it in such a fashion so as to not get any complaints, particularly if my wife is back there :-0
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real7/24/13 7:02 PM |
This crowd had a narcissistic "mr muscle" that I enjoyed hurting. So much so I made sure he complained.
One guy would pull at 33kph and the next at 35 then one at 30 then one at 42. It was a double pace line. My wife was not in the bunch.
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Paul Datars
Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 1229
Location: Manotick, Ontario, Canada7/26/13 7:27 AM |
Those guys with muscles (ie. cosmetic bulk) are the worst, and funny too, because most don't realise it's the skinny guys you need to fear in a group of cyclists :-0
Sounds like a hell of a group ride with speeds changing by 50%...where I come from when that happens, you either get a lot of pissed off people or the fast guys end up off the front in a small group on their own and then the speed never comes back down.
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real7/26/13 7:45 AM |
On more than one occasion I found that there was just two of us side by side and off the front. The group was thinned down to 20 or 30 people from over 100 and 160k is a long way to go on your own. So I would go back only 5 folks and duck back in after my pull. I let the wheel suckers stay until they became unsafe and flicked the ones that were scary by cranking a pull or two at a really hard pace and dropping them off the back.
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Andy M-S
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 3377
Location: Hamden (greater New Haven) CT7/26/13 8:50 AM |
I'm so ALL ALONE...
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160k is a long way to go on your own.
That's how I
usually
ride centuries!
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real7/26/13 9:28 AM |
at what type of pace?
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Andy M-S
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 3377
Location: Hamden (greater New Haven) CT7/26/13 9:35 AM |
Not fast.
S L O W L Y. Pacelines are fun and all, I've just never treated a century as a speed contest; for me, they're more about endurance and bloody-mindedness.
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real7/26/13 11:23 AM |
Type A
Every ride is a race to me.
I fight to not ride hard on easy days. It is easier for me to stay off the bike completely for recovery days.
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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Posts: 3307
Location: Springfield7/26/13 12:57 PM |
Never on Sunday
Whenever I am passed on a rest day, my mantra is 'never on Sunday.'
I'll have to admit though, if I'm passed by the same guy a over the course of a couple of weeks of Mondays, I'll flick myself up to their speed and draft until they notice I'm there. Usually they are really surprised to see me there. I laugh, I know the score.
Getting passed like that is motivation for the rest of the week.
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Andy M-S
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 3377
Location: Hamden (greater New Haven) CT7/27/13 5:26 AM |
alone
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quote:
Every ride is a race to me.
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Andy M-S
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 3377
Location: Hamden (greater New Haven) CT7/27/13 5:30 AM |
alone
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quote:
Every ride is a race to me.
I used to do that more, but these days I'm locked down so much with work, family, etc that I treat each ride like a vacation. I don't have to talk to anyone, or think about bike equipment, or anything. Just a chance to ride and look and think--with lots of places to get a banana.
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real7/27/13 6:21 AM |
I use the bike to race my demons. I win these days.
Though I don't sleep much.
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Paul Datars
Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 1229
Location: Manotick, Ontario, Canada7/27/13 7:45 AM |
Wanna stay ahead???
Don't neglect sleep for too long, it is the key to recovery and recovery is the key to not getting slower...or you could try a pair if 808 Firecrest wheels, but they wont replace sleep indefinitely :-)
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real7/27/13 5:50 PM |
I know. The lack of sleep is not my choice.
Demons ya know.
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Andy M-S
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 3377
Location: Hamden (greater New Haven) CT7/27/13 7:08 PM |
My demons are wheelsuckers
But they have limited range. I just have to keep going until they can't.
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