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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6945
Location: Maine

12/1/24 11:04 AM

Trainer fun

This morning I did the Wahoo Full Frontal trainer fitness test, and lived to tell about it!

This involved doing two 15 second sprints, then a 5 minute max effort, then a 20 minute max effort, then a 1 minute max effort, all in an hour. It gives you values for neuromuscular power (5 second), max aerobic power (5 minute), FTP (20 minute) and anaerobic capacity (1 minute).

With the results, they classify you as a rider, and I was classified as "Pursuiter" meaning my 5 minute effort was relatively the best. That is the classification I thought most likely. OTOH, maybe that was chosen because the spelling most resembled "Poseur."

I'm not particularly training for anything, but trying to add a little punch to my riding, and this is one way to start. Early this morning I'd talked myself out of doing it, but glad I made the effort.

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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 2831
Location: hillbilly heaven

12/1/24 6:30 PM

I dont have the will to train or go hard anymore. I ride pretty videos on my smart trainer. I'm doing a ride in Italy that has a short section of 25% grade coming up. Not looking forward to it, but it will be nice to go over the top. I've ridden my trainer 3-4 days a week for 9 years now, so I expect it to fail in the not too distant future. I've done nothing to it. Still on the orginal crank, chain and cassette. If anything goes I'll have to replace it all.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19219
Location: PDX

12/1/24 9:07 PM

Still using last version computrainer, even have spare controller and load generator. I grafted the load generator onto a Kurt Rock and Roll frame a few years ago, love it! I pretty much use it for HR Zone 2 and 3 hour to hour and a half. FTP set 60-70 less than when I was 44-5 years old. When I think about it, I've using a CT since the 90s. I stream a series of some sort on TV in shop to break the tedium of just looking at the PC screen. I do still subscribe to ERGvideo Nov-March each season.

Tuesday is my hernia operation, so we'll see how long before I can get back on. Plan to do a bunch of walking for few weeks. But as soon as I feel like I can through a leg over the bike on the CT, I am on. Build up the ALR5 Checkpoint frame I grabbed into a fat tire woods/gravel Mongrel. Yada

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LeeW
Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 470
Location: near Baltimore, MD

12/2/24 7:20 AM

Good luck with the surgery, Sparky.

Walking isn't so bad when you're limited from more vigorous activity.

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RCoapman
Joined: 09 Feb 2005
Posts: 5221
Location: Back in the snowy homeland

12/4/24 11:07 AM

This afternoon I'll be doing the following-

15min sweet spot
15min aerobic base
20min Threshold
10min recovery
3x4on/4off Theshold +20W
then 3x30s on/3min off MAX effort.

I'm literally too old for this shit.

Good luck with the hernia, Bob. Local guy at the club TT had that earlier this year. Said it was about a month before he could ride again.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19219
Location: PDX

12/4/24 3:26 PM

Hardly sore 24 hours in. Ice is the cyclist's friend. This Dr. Does something apparently not many do. They blow you up with carbon dioxide which normally gets into your ball sack. It blows up like a balloon. What this guy does is bind your junk so it doesn't do that. Elaine in +25 years has not seen any other surgeon do it. My brother in-law had surgery recently for near exact hernia, and spent a week icing his black and blue junk.

so remember to ask you Dr if you get a laparoscopic hernia repair about this. It is a real luxury having your wife pic you surgeons by seeing them work ongoing. She say this Dr does double faster than most do a single.

Hope I am not speaking too soon... :)

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KerryIrons
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 3261
Location: Midland, MI

12/5/24 9:17 AM


quote:
15min sweet spot
15min aerobic base
20min Threshold
10min recovery
3x4on/4off Theshold +20W
then 3x30s on/3min off MAX effort.

I'm literally too old for this shit.



I agree. That's why I get on the rollers and ride steady for 40 minutes while reading and listening to music. Then I do 20 minutes of "floor exercises" including stretching, jumping, balancing, crunches, etc. Then 20 minutes more on the rollers. Then 20 minutes of yoga. I come out of winter just about where I left in the fall with no pain and suffering to report. YMMV

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6945
Location: Maine

12/5/24 2:12 PM

I actually enjoy some structured workouts in the winter. Maybe because I never do them outside. Change of pace.

And Rob, you may be old in your mind, but I'm way ahead of you there....

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LeeW
Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 470
Location: near Baltimore, MD

12/6/24 8:04 AM

Hey Kerry

Have you had any positive progress on the bone-density issue your Dr was concerned about? Does the jumping help?

Please excuse me if this is too invasive a question, but I ask because others may have related concerns.

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KerryIrons
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 3261
Location: Midland, MI

12/7/24 9:57 AM

No problem Lee. I thought somehow that I would get another bone scan after one year on the alendronate (Fosamax generic). I must have misread the information on the web, because my doctor says there's no point in getting another scan for at least two years after starting the drugs, and the Mayo Clinic (or some other authoritative source) says 3 years. I'm keeping up the 80 jumps per day because it surely can't hurt but won't have anything to report until at least this time next year. It took a lot of years for the bones to thin and reversing (hopefully) will take a lot of years too.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19219
Location: PDX

12/7/24 11:05 AM

Update: mostly soreness, and minimal bruising but some on repair side. Happy to have the repair done and behind me. I'd been wearing a binder device when mowing and working projects. After finishing the garage to quilting/sewing shop I found the need to wear the binder all the time. But Dr said it wasn't that big. While sneezing and coughing I had to do the Dutch Boy finger in the dyke. Luckily it always self reduced after the events. But really tiresome to deal with daily.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6945
Location: Maine

12/7/24 11:19 AM

The numbers from my last scan looked a bit better but when I mentioned that my wet blanket endocrinologist said "that's not statistically significant." :(

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19219
Location: PDX

12/7/24 11:30 AM

"wet blanket endocrinologist"

??


Few pics last project. Probably more strenuous work than I shoulda been doing with a hernia. Pulled out the overhead door and framed in for the Morgan door. Insulated and drywalled, floor, paint etc. hid furnace behind the curtain there. 50 SF of pegboard ready for bins etc. Added that last extension to the long arm quilting machine to 12' frame to do a Calif king size quilt.







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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6945
Location: Maine

12/7/24 11:44 AM

I was referring to the bone density discussion.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

12/7/24 12:04 PM

"I was referring to the bone density discussion."

Got that, just that the wet blanket reference went right over my head. ;)

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LeeW
Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 470
Location: near Baltimore, MD

12/8/24 8:04 AM

Kerry, I experienced about the same. In Sep 2023, I had a dexascan that suggested borderline ostopenia. My PCP wasn't overly concerned with the readings, but recommended weight-bearing exercise and Vit D3 supplementation. I went back in Oct for what we used to call a physical and wondered if my PCP would order a follow-up scan, but no. I wondered if it was issue of whether insurance would pay for another scan so soon, but apparently not.

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KerryIrons
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 3261
Location: Midland, MI

12/9/24 10:27 AM


quote:
wondered if it was issue of whether insurance would pay for another scan so soon, but apparently not


The reason insurance (and Medicare) won't pay for it is because it's such a slow process that every other year or every third year is the kind of time frame you're dealing with to see changes. Add to that in Lee's case it's "borderline osteopenia" as opposed to actual osteoporosis then the rationale for a more frequent test is even less. Plus, you're not on an actual medication. I've been on D3 for probably 20 years based on a doctor's recommendation from a low D3 level in a blood test.

Dan, I have the impression that DEXA interpretation is a bit fuzzy anyway, so they might have fairly broad numbers to be statistically significant.

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KerryIrons
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 3261
Location: Midland, MI

12/9/24 10:27 AM

Double post. Don't know what happened.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19219
Location: PDX

12/9/24 1:02 PM

While we are on these topics, how about synth testosterone? Lots of us are seniors here, do we have more than a 'median level for our age" due to fitness ongoing from cycling and other active lifestyle components? Any one tested and have RX for this?

Update: Dr. said trainer OK @ 10 days post surgery [12/13] low effort unless discomfort from doing so. I wanna spin so bad. Side note: position on the bike had no effect on symptoms with the hernia. Posture on the bike had self reducing effect. I certainly would have had the surgery a lot sooner if not. Considering first time the bulge surfaced was 2019.

+Update. Man bits not ready for saddle, immediately evident. Giving it another week.


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KerryIrons
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 3261
Location: Midland, MI

12/11/24 10:32 AM


quote:
how about synth testosterone? Lots of us are seniors here, do we have more than a 'median level for our age" due to fitness ongoing from cycling and other active lifestyle components? Any one tested and have RX for this?


Had mine tested at age 74 and it was within the normal range. But then I am a big, strong, manly man :)

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