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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 18053
Location: Portland, OR

3/19/21 9:44 AM

Cleat position

I thought I dropped my heals until I saw this. I am more flat footed pedal-er with a slight heel raise at bottom, apparently not as much a heel dropper as I thought riders would/could implement...


https://youtu.be/OPASHllkqJM


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Nick Payne
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 2509
Location: Canberra, Australia

3/20/21 4:11 AM

Here's Jacques Anquetil at speed, foot very much pointing down at the bottom of the pedal stroke. And the rider on his inside - looks to me like Federico Bahamontes - is also at the bottom of the pedal stroke with a very similar foot position.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: Portland, OR

3/20/21 12:44 PM

Not sure how much sense it make to use calf muscle less to the point of a chicken leg/calf. ;0

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4772
Location: Nashua, NH

3/21/21 3:46 PM

In the top photo, it looks like the rider's saddle is way too low.

After watching the video, he indicated that he has an unusual position because he drops his heels much more than most people.

As for the fore-aft position of the cleats, I agree that they should be behind the metatarsal head, but I have no idea how he's getting them as far back as he recommends. I've been riding Speedplays for over 20 years and the biggest issue I've had with them was the inability to get them back far enough. It makes me wonder where he's actually measuring from, as in the video it looks like he's measuring from the metatarsal joint , rather than the head , which is the standard that I've always seen. Measuring from the joint does make sense, as it's more distinct than trying to approximate the center point of a curved bone.

In my experience, the worst type of cleats are the Look style, where the pivot point is way forward on the shoe. It's probably fine if you have the no-float cleats, but if you use their floating cleats, it can create major foot instability. That's the main reason I dumped them in favor of Speedplay.

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