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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Posts: 3307
Location: Springfield

4/25/15 3:08 PM

That looks pretty close to the "sit bones."

(Insert joke about a bell, lights, reflectors, helmet, gloves, xc skiing bindings)

D*mnit Walter, you go for it! You are healthy and fit, no better time to be injured. Make those PT guys proud!

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

4/25/15 3:11 PM

As ET would say "OUCH"

<img src="http://cdn.meme.am/images/7989638.jpg" >

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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
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Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real

4/25/15 8:31 PM

Do you have kidney stones? I see three nice looking rocks>

Or they are shadows....

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 4391
Location: metro-motown-area

4/26/15 7:03 AM

interesting!

no kidney stones i'm aware of. looking at human anatomy/biology, those apparent spheres are a few inches too low to be kidney stones. or gall stones for that matter.

good eyes, i will *definitely* ask my GP about those!!!

watching L-B-L this morning...this sure looked familiar!!!

<img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/p600x600/10982325_10205734121824178_6860096047409239751_o.jpg">

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

4/26/15 12:12 PM

Yea, Elaine said to low for Kidney Stones when she saw the pic.

Whom ever looked at your film would almost certainly referred to the appropriate viewer/dr/dept if the spots were suspect of anything.

I sure would ask having said that... ;)

I am guessing it is the undigested capsules in his bowel from the PEDS he has been ingesting. [double wink] ;)

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Nick Payne
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 2626
Location: Canberra, Australia

4/26/15 3:28 PM

Just received the message below from a friend - there was a report in the local paper last week about three cyclists having been hit by a car on the north side of town. I found out a couple of days later that one of the riders was a friend I see on the bike almost every week, and I sent him an email asking how he was. He has a rather dry sense of humour:

"Injuries? Didn't I elaborate earlier?

"5 busted ribs (6 fractures in total)

"Upper humerus shredded - bony fragments on CT that were screwed back on. Frags were serious chunks with various rotator cuff tendons attached.

"Lower humerus - lateral epicondyle detached - little plate and screws to fix that.

"Liver laceration that bled internally for an hour or two but sealed up ok. Lungs misbehaved for a while but extra O2 kept me going.

"All new skin on left butt:) shredded but has healed up really well. Only 4 dressings left on - 2 surgical + deep L calf puncture wound + R shoulder scrape! Very little R side damage just some scrapes!

"Car STOPPED eventually and Ingrid flopped off the bonnet. Fortunately it never reached me - I slid up the road away from the impact point fast enough to stay ahead of the car. The extra drag of Ingrid smashing the windscreen and riding the bonnet got the drivers attention and she must have braked hard after impact - hard enough not to reach me!

"Driver was LOUD - screamed more than any of us - I lay quietly - hurting but happy! So bizarre - I could hear Ingrid - conscious and yodelling - Greg and Lyn came into my field of view within the first minute - so happy that I had ears and eyes in them. Never really saw the driver - a grey shape passed thru my field of view - screaming and yelling - so I figured that was her!

"A morning to forget :).

He says we might see him at post-ride coffee this morning if he can scrounge a lift there with his father-in-law.

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: metro-motown-area

4/26/15 3:46 PM

wow, nick

your buddies got beat to hell! hope they heal up fast and regain full health.

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: metro-motown-area

4/26/15 6:53 PM

most important post: DAMAGE ASSESSMENT

pulled out of the trunk, first time i've seen it since the pile-up.

first, we see evidence of someone else's paint-job in the melee. the wheel itself is pranged, will need a new rim/spokes. also, the bearings feel rough -- which i find surprising. so i guess i'll need some new bearings too.
<img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/1506465_10205738572575444_4800015399989312905_n.jpg?oh=c96e0c2911b89fb6c63f10b4e1c50c30&oe=55CED226&__gda__=1440003075_9a42c9a2ff0b2424718bc3e32d75e10e">

next, saddle was knocked askew...also scuffed on the left flank and marring on the top. in pretty good condition, though.
<img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/q89/p526x296/11096433_10205738573935478_3503268704194892601_n.jpg?oh=f5a8ac00344df7820d8314c9e444a677&oe=55CC998B&__gda__=1440332827_0c62e31bc3d7d4f7f592272bffcced80">

right ergo lever knocked askew......and torn up a bit, along with the rubber hood
<img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/q86/p526x296/10929983_10205738574535493_2711533499965812191_n.jpg?oh=e37b48aa15c9904c16a2173674d5d33a&oe=559C9638&__gda__=1440666298_4b2f1e50df13d1bf904f46bb40877141"><img src="https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/q81/p526x296/11160589_10205738575215510_4840543219523423349_n.jpg?oh=71f87320f911323afbc85854e2f375b8&oe=55E54D04">

left ergo lever saw less action, , just a small scuff. and there's a tire-mark on the underside of the DT...location very close to HT, no way it's my tire mark.
<img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/p526x296/10411727_10205738575735523_1499388609094086144_n.jpg?oh=e10fa527e8e15f9f17fca25502c75077&oe=55D8CB35&__gda__=1440362956_78a705e4587e151d0f9a81ea549dd637"><img src="https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/p526x296/11193282_10205738576135533_3354811796629013575_n.jpg?oh=4ca40ef518f7b756b573b27941d32f93&oe=559872EC">

fork and front-end look fine, no evidence of any catastrophic damage there. cranks fine, pedals fine. rear wheels still perfectly true, no damage to the frame i could see. overall, the bike came out ALOT better than the pilot.

makes me kinda sad...had started looking at an Extreme Power. as a replacement! ;-)


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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

4/26/15 7:28 PM

Pull the fork and scrutinize maybe? Also the seat post and clamping lug area of frame too I am thinking....

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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 1724
Location: SE Pa, USA

4/27/15 6:21 AM

Pro's closet has hudz campy hoods for 5.99! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hudz-Soft-Grip-Enhancement-Brake-Hoods-Brugge-Black-Campy-Ergo-V2-/400897477504?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d575a0b80

These are the soft ones, but they're very nice, bought a couple pairs for my ride. Have them in white too...

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 4391
Location: metro-motown-area

4/27/15 5:47 PM

progress update

imagine frankenstein walking, with a cane. or an infant just taking his first steps, sans cane.

that's progress -- i'll take it!

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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real

4/27/15 6:26 PM

Inspect that carbon close. Make sure it is not soft at all in any areas. Inspect the seat tube insert also (assuming it uses one). The twisted seat can tear loose any Al liner. I bet it is okay though. You know me and inspecting carbon damage. It is great stuff until you make it mad via impacts and torsions it is not designed to endure.

That scuff on the DT make just be from your tire, if the fork took a whack it could have backed into the frame and recovered. IF that appears to be the case at ALL look at the TT/HT junction, the fork, the steerer and fork/steerer junction. That kind of damage is a show stopper for sure. I have seen plenty of metal frames die that death.

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: metro-motown-area

4/28/15 8:45 AM

actually got the crash on video

not much of a forward impact, there wasnt a big speed differential -- the guys i ran into were falling/sliding and still moving forward and i was stopping.

when i plowed into them, my bike sorta jack-knifed off to the left side, then me and the bike pivoted downward around the rear tire contact point with the asphalt and smacked me down into the pavement.

aside from the front wheel getting tangled into the other guys and the ergo levers getting marfed, then the saddle whacking the pavement -- that's about it!

ordered new spokes/nips/bearings yesterday.

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 4391
Location: metro-motown-area

4/28/15 10:36 AM

BOOM

http://youtu.be/BXpb23ZwaS4

this is me on the ground, getting pile-driven by guy behind. it's entirely possible (though not likely) that my pelvis was fine until another person landed on me!

<img src="https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11193331_10153029097568369_7412635127670315303_n.jpg?oh=db4a27ff13586fcb3990b57f9b10d4d6&oe=55E5F3EE"><img src="https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11168086_10153029097693369_119902456417876441_n.jpg?oh=45be587fdca581d61117d4dd8116c9c3&oe=55E3D848">

one thing i find really puzzling is trying to reconcile where i'm injured *besides* my hip and no corresponding action in the video.

from the video i got slapped solidly down onto my side, did a slight roll onto my back, and that's about how i ended up. one cleat unclicked, but the bike never really separated that far from me.

yet my inner thighs and groin and lower abdoment are just so f*cking tore up, i would have expected to see more legs-a-flailing action. but, man, the shit i'm feeling...just aint represented by how i fell!

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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real

4/29/15 7:40 PM

You are messed up because you were not unclipped. The same impact that twisted the seat post twisted you.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19083
Location: PDX

4/30/15 12:06 AM

At age 50 when I fractured my tibia. It was like a laugh-in tricycle accident. No one landed on me either. You may well have got and extra G or 2 of the rider behind you where you got landed on. If that person is 180 lb, well do the math.
Not to mention your own Gs if you got snapped from the high side speeding your trip to the ground like a bow string.

I was already almost completely stopped and just fell forward over a drop off onto my face. I think it was both me pushing back to try to stay atop without falling. Add in the twist and percussive release of the binding while I was reflexively trying to stay up and not fall over the top forward. I should have just went and not fought it. Your reflexes are just going to take over unless you are trained specifically around that.

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