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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19200
Location: PDX10/30/14 10:53 PM |
Parts is parts... [wheels, wheels, wheels]
But some is mo betta than otters...
For the disc Roubaix sneakers:
<img src="http://coupekiss.host-ed.me/images/ttf/XTR-Hubs.jpg" width=320>
Last edited by Sparky on 11/2/14 12:26 PM; edited 1 time in total
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19200
Location: PDX11/2/14 12:16 PM |
Back at a RIM conundrum
conundrum, or rather conundisc ??
Went to look at some sweet used Campy Track Rims to use as a rimset for these XTR wheels/hubs. Omega Strada Hardox semi aero. Unfortunately although near mint from only indoor and non brake use, 36 hole and not 32 as advertised.
Good cheaper alternative to HEDs and H+ sons, no less carbon, especially cost wise. The limiting factor being narrow old school VS 22-5mm wide current offerings.
HED now has Belgium disk only without machining or even the brake track cast into the product. 150.00 a pop make you look towards carbon for that cost. I do not want extra material for a brake trake on disk rims.
H+ Sons Archetype looking like the best cost/weight/profile solution. Or do I buck up and get the CHN carbon ultra light [@ 350 most] for 292.00 shipped.
Begs the question, how compliant will a 23mm sq carbon rim be in a 32 spoke wheel, disc wheel.
Also wondering if front and rear OC rims like Velocity makes might not make for an improvement worth pursuing given dish front and back of a disc wheelset.
May wind up with something form BHS.com, only no disc only in what he has I would use until January according to email query.
I wish Walter had some more HED in 32 spoke to move out. ;) Oops, machined brake tracks. ;)
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19200
Location: PDX11/5/14 5:06 PM |
Pacenti 25mm wide disc specific rims.
Hmmm..
http://www.justridingalong.com/sl25-disk-rim.html
Designed exclusively for disk brakes (with no rim braking surface at all), the SL25 manages to be stronger, lighter and stiffer. With a shift of material away from the sidewalls where it is no longer needed into the spoke bed, the increase in strength and stiffness comes with a rim weight of only 432g (weighed by us at Just Riding Along).
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sandiway
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Posts: 4902
Location: back in Tucson11/6/14 10:40 AM |
26" MTB rims
I was looking for lightweight 26" rims, preferably aero and carbon, to upgrade the basic set on the tandem. I can't seem to find any aero MTB rims. Strange. At the speed the cross-country guys go, aero counts...
Sandiway
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19200
Location: PDX11/6/14 11:39 AM |
Enve M90, 26 Rim is 34mm and made for downhill. That is getting there aero wise.
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sandiway
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Posts: 4902
Location: back in Tucson11/6/14 1:11 PM |
quote:
Enve M90, 26 Rim is 34mm and made for downhill.
34mm tall is good. But looks too wide and heavy.
Sandiway
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19200
Location: PDX11/6/14 2:32 PM |
yeah, I did not catch the width, but 487 grams too heavy ???
Pacenti TL28 still a bit wide, but certainly light. What tires are you running on the Tandem? Or plan on running with new wheels if different?
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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 2827
Location: hillbilly heaven11/6/14 4:17 PM |
I don't think I'd go much lighter than 487 on a tandem. Any idea what the originals weigh?
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19200
Location: PDX11/6/14 4:54 PM |
"I don't think I'd go much lighter than 487 on a tandem"
We for sure would not. Being like 420lb on/with the bike and all. But Sandi & Co are not only gobs lighter, 26" instead of 700C etc. Especially if event wheels, with lots of spokes.
The TL28 is under 400gr, that seems scarey on the surface.
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real11/6/14 6:46 PM |
@sandiway
Did you look on Fleabay for a Chinese supplier?
I have had fantastic luck with my wheels (just took them off for the go slow season) and I bet they have 26 inch wheels over there for you type of application.
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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 19200
Location: PDX11/6/14 6:59 PM |
Had a lengthy convo with Kirk Pacenti today. We had a few things in common which was a little funny.
I have decided to go with the SL25, although an SL23 with the non brake track would have been fine. 25mm wide for road is pushing it I think, as much as I like wide rims. These are 2.5mm wider internally the Belgiums and A23s [being the same]. And 2mm wider then the SL23.
About $C less than the eBay CHN Carbons. Now which spokes to use? Thinking Lasers, even though Sapim says non disc use. I used DT revos on my first set I built way back when. Not afraid of dealing with twisting during the build.
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